. >> which, by the way, romney himself during the campaign walked away from, saying my comments were absolutely incorrect. it does sound like, to some, that he's reiterating. mary, i want to ask you about another thing he said. he took issue with the 20 republican debates that took place in the primaries, saying quote it was absolutely nuts, criticized the networks that hosted the debates saying the next time the debates should go to quote, stations that are reasonable that quote, it's not all going to be done by cnn and nbc. i moderated one of those debates. i didn't hear complaints from the romney people after that debate. and a lot of republicans i talked to during the campaign were saying that the debates made him a better candidate, that he got better and better at debating. >> yeah, they did, and we can stop maligning mitt romney. he's not going to run again. that's the only other thing i know he said on the campaign. i would like to say to charles, the greatest, and he can deny this but i'm an empiricist, the greatest impediment to upward mobility for women and minorities are